liar liar pants on fire
Please find below letters to the Speaker of the House of Commons and the Home Secretary who flatly denied that the EU had anything to do with ID cards in the House of Commons when replying to John Redwood. It is my belief Mr Clarke lied to the House which is a serious issue, as such I have made a complaint to the Speaker of the House.
Regards, Derek
The Speaker of the House of Commons
House of Commons
London
SW1A 0AA.
Sunday, April 2, 2006
Dear Sir,
Please find enclosed a copy of a letter which I have sent to the Home Secretary, Mr Charles Clarke MP, who I believe has committed the offence of attempting to deceive the Members of the House of Commons.
As you will note when you read this correspondence, I have proved that Mr Clarke, by denying any EU involvement regarding the introduction of I.D. cards, has told an untruth to the Members. It is easily proved that the EU has the intention to create an EU-wide data-base and certain standards for all I.D. cards issued within its borders.
As Mr Clarke has obviously misled the House regarding this matter, may I respectfully ask what measures you will now take to reprimand our wayward Home Secretary? I look forward to receiving your reply and comments forthwith.
Yours sincerely,
Derek Bennett.
eurorealistnl@aol.com
Enc.
Mr Charles Clark M.P.
Home Secretary
House of Commons
London
SW1A 0AA.
Sunday, April 2, 2006
Dear Mr Clarke,
During the debate in the House of Commons on the 29th March, regarding the introduction of the appalling I.D. cards scheme, which according to the Labour Party manifesto would not be compulsory, but will now be so for anyone wanting a new passport from 2008 due to being forced to have their biometric and other details included onto a national data-base,when reading Hansard I noticed your comments in answer to a question from John Redwood MP.
Mr Redwood asked: “Will the Home Secretary confirm that people are right in thinking that this is part of an EU requirement to prepare for a common system across Europe, and that that is why he is in such a hurry to get rid of our liberties in this respect?” You then replied: “I am happy to confirm that that is total nonsense. There is no proposal either for an EU identity card or for an EU-wide card of any sort. As far as I am aware, there is no proposal on the table.” You then confirmed that the EU has discussed biometrics for passports and biometrics for residents documents.
Regarding your denial of any EU involvement concerning I.D. cards, you do not have to be a genius to discover that I.D. cards have the EU stamped all over them. Using my limited and basic means of research I have discovered such items as an article from the Guardian newspaper, December 8, 2005, in which Michael Cross reported an EU conference held in Manchester during November 2005, which set out four “ambitious targets” for European e-government by 2010. He wrote: ‘Item four is mutually recognised electronic identifications”. It calls on member states to work towards “the mutual recognition of national electronic identities by testing, piloting and implementing suitable technologies and methods”.’ He also stated that the Austrian Presidency would be promoting identity cards as the key to electronic government.
Even the Government in which you are a Minister, during its recent EU Presidency, has called for the adoption of biometrics I.D. cards and associated standards across the whole of the EU. In a proposal issued on Monday 11th July, 2005, the UK called for the drafting of “common standards for national identity cards taking into account the achievements in relation to the EU passport and in the ICAO framework.”
Then there is the Lisbon strategy, a quick trawl on the internet revealed the EU Commission’s target actions to be completed by june 2000. Under the title: ‘Improving the quality of life of citizens’, the fifth item down is none other than: “Commission Package of Regulations on a Uniform Format for the EU Passport, Identity Card and Residents Permit (June)”. Further evidence of EU involvement with I.D. cards is contained within the text of the Treaty Establishing a Constitution for Europe. Art III-125 (2) Article III-125. In paragraph 2 it states: “For the same purpose as those referred to in paragraph 1 and if the constitution has not provided the necessary powers, a European law or framework law of the Council may establish measures concerning passports, identity cards, residents permits or any other such document and measures concerning social security or social protection. The Council shall act unanimously after consulting the European Parliament.” It can not be denied that the EU has its grubby little fingers all over these proposals for I.D. cards.
Considering I have discovered all these facts by simple means, you as the Home Secretary, with Ministerial aides and the whole of the Home Office and Government information services at your disposal, should have been thoroughly briefed on the European Union’s involvement regarding this matter.
This makes me suggest that you can be one of two things - you are either useless at your job as Home Secretary and should resign forthwith for being so incompetent, or you deliberately deceived the House of Commons, which is a serious Parliamentary offence. I suggest that you should apologise to Mr Redwood MP, the Speaker of the House and the Members of Parliament forthwith.
Yours sincerely,
Derek Bennett.
Tel: 0121 359 2950 day,
01922 631970 evening,
07813 153897 mobile
eurorealistnl@aol.com
Regards, Derek
The Speaker of the House of Commons
House of Commons
London
SW1A 0AA.
Sunday, April 2, 2006
Dear Sir,
Please find enclosed a copy of a letter which I have sent to the Home Secretary, Mr Charles Clarke MP, who I believe has committed the offence of attempting to deceive the Members of the House of Commons.
As you will note when you read this correspondence, I have proved that Mr Clarke, by denying any EU involvement regarding the introduction of I.D. cards, has told an untruth to the Members. It is easily proved that the EU has the intention to create an EU-wide data-base and certain standards for all I.D. cards issued within its borders.
As Mr Clarke has obviously misled the House regarding this matter, may I respectfully ask what measures you will now take to reprimand our wayward Home Secretary? I look forward to receiving your reply and comments forthwith.
Yours sincerely,
Derek Bennett.
eurorealistnl@aol.com
Enc.
Mr Charles Clark M.P.
Home Secretary
House of Commons
London
SW1A 0AA.
Sunday, April 2, 2006
Dear Mr Clarke,
During the debate in the House of Commons on the 29th March, regarding the introduction of the appalling I.D. cards scheme, which according to the Labour Party manifesto would not be compulsory, but will now be so for anyone wanting a new passport from 2008 due to being forced to have their biometric and other details included onto a national data-base,when reading Hansard I noticed your comments in answer to a question from John Redwood MP.
Mr Redwood asked: “Will the Home Secretary confirm that people are right in thinking that this is part of an EU requirement to prepare for a common system across Europe, and that that is why he is in such a hurry to get rid of our liberties in this respect?” You then replied: “I am happy to confirm that that is total nonsense. There is no proposal either for an EU identity card or for an EU-wide card of any sort. As far as I am aware, there is no proposal on the table.” You then confirmed that the EU has discussed biometrics for passports and biometrics for residents documents.
Regarding your denial of any EU involvement concerning I.D. cards, you do not have to be a genius to discover that I.D. cards have the EU stamped all over them. Using my limited and basic means of research I have discovered such items as an article from the Guardian newspaper, December 8, 2005, in which Michael Cross reported an EU conference held in Manchester during November 2005, which set out four “ambitious targets” for European e-government by 2010. He wrote: ‘Item four is mutually recognised electronic identifications”. It calls on member states to work towards “the mutual recognition of national electronic identities by testing, piloting and implementing suitable technologies and methods”.’ He also stated that the Austrian Presidency would be promoting identity cards as the key to electronic government.
Even the Government in which you are a Minister, during its recent EU Presidency, has called for the adoption of biometrics I.D. cards and associated standards across the whole of the EU. In a proposal issued on Monday 11th July, 2005, the UK called for the drafting of “common standards for national identity cards taking into account the achievements in relation to the EU passport and in the ICAO framework.”
Then there is the Lisbon strategy, a quick trawl on the internet revealed the EU Commission’s target actions to be completed by june 2000. Under the title: ‘Improving the quality of life of citizens’, the fifth item down is none other than: “Commission Package of Regulations on a Uniform Format for the EU Passport, Identity Card and Residents Permit (June)”. Further evidence of EU involvement with I.D. cards is contained within the text of the Treaty Establishing a Constitution for Europe. Art III-125 (2) Article III-125. In paragraph 2 it states: “For the same purpose as those referred to in paragraph 1 and if the constitution has not provided the necessary powers, a European law or framework law of the Council may establish measures concerning passports, identity cards, residents permits or any other such document and measures concerning social security or social protection. The Council shall act unanimously after consulting the European Parliament.” It can not be denied that the EU has its grubby little fingers all over these proposals for I.D. cards.
Considering I have discovered all these facts by simple means, you as the Home Secretary, with Ministerial aides and the whole of the Home Office and Government information services at your disposal, should have been thoroughly briefed on the European Union’s involvement regarding this matter.
This makes me suggest that you can be one of two things - you are either useless at your job as Home Secretary and should resign forthwith for being so incompetent, or you deliberately deceived the House of Commons, which is a serious Parliamentary offence. I suggest that you should apologise to Mr Redwood MP, the Speaker of the House and the Members of Parliament forthwith.
Yours sincerely,
Derek Bennett.
Tel: 0121 359 2950 day,
01922 631970 evening,
07813 153897 mobile
eurorealistnl@aol.com
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